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The Workout Everyone Needs To Try! Norwegain 4x4 Method | Jan Helgerud

Tracy Steen Season 2 Episode 77

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BOOK: The Norwegian 4 x 4 Method - Science, History and Practice from its Creators


Today on the podcast, I’m joined by Jan Helgerud, one of the world’s leading researchers in cardiovascular fitness and high-intensity interval training.
Jan is best known for the Norwegian 4×4 method and decades of research showing how improving VO₂ max isn’t just about performance, it’s one of the strongest predictors of long-term health and longevity.

In this conversation, we break down what the science actually says about cardio intensity, how often you really need to do it, and why smart conditioning matters more than endless moderate workouts, especially as we age.

If you care about training for strength, stamina, and a longer, healthier life, this episode is a must-listen.
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